PostAndRape

  • Subscribe to our RSS feed.
  • Twitter
  • StumbleUpon
  • Reddit
  • Facebook
  • Digg

Monday, 5 August 2013

Fewer and Fewer Women Are Entering the Labor Force?

Posted on 02:30 by Unknown

That's part of the title of a Slate post by Matthew Yglesias (he probably didn't choose the title).  The rest of it is "America is Leaning Out."

It's fun to parse those kinds of titles.  This one uses both a link to Sheryl Sandberg's Lean-In movement and a type of exaggeration: "fewer and fewer women are entering the labor force."  The doubling of "fewer" implies continuous diminution.  The Sheryl Sandberg linkage implies that the women "choose" not to be in the labor force, in a manner opposite to "choosing" to do well in one's career or job.

But the research the post discusses has nothing to do with either of these suggestions.

It has to do with the rates of labor market entry and exit after an earlier recession and after the most recent one, and tells us nothing about continuous diminution of women's labor market participation rates or the reasons for the figures the researchers found. 

The authors of that study use two tables to argue that it's reduced labor market entry by women in the lowest age categories which is the major cause of the falling labor market participation rate in the US.  I reproduce the second table here.  It shows entry rates by age groups and separately for men and women:


The caption at the bottom of the table must be wrong.  It applies to the first table in the research paper, about labor market exit.   The proper caption should probably be "the percentage of people in labor force who were not in it four months earlier."

The crucial data, for the purposes of the post's title, has to do with what is going on in the younger age groups (up to age 54, even).  Women's entry into labor force after the most recent recession is lower than after the 2002-2003 recession, while men's entry in the younger age categories is slightly higher or the same as in 2002-2003.

This is all the data tells us, by the way.  It doesn't tell us what caused those differences.  To discuss them is speculation, ranging from the possibility that women are more likely to choose education at younger ages than men (thus leaving the labor force temporarily or delaying their first entry) to the possibility that women are "choosing" to stay at home with their children while men are "choosing" to enter the labor force.

The comments to the Yglesias post have the usual MRAs telling us that women naturally prefer to stay at home and that at least this gives the poor unemployed men a better chance to fulfill their god-given male role and so on.  But if the reason is that women choose more education, the MRAs could tell us that women are hogging all the good spots in colleges and so on.  They are a gift that keeps on giving.  And yes, I know I should not read comments.

It's worth pointing out that the study (which is not given in much detail in the pdf I linked to) is a comparison of the aftermath of two recessions.  It's not about the general labor market participation rates of women and men in general.  In that sense the information it conveys is much more limited and cannot be used for the kind of emotional arguments the title suggests.

Because the debate abstracts away from that contest it fails to ask what might be different between the 2002-2003 recession and the most recent one.  For example, could it be the case that female dominated occupations are simply not hiring as much after the most recent one, compared to the earlier one?  And if that is the case (say, because of the belt-tightening of health care and education industries), could it not be the case that women are more likely to find their job search fruitless and therefore more likely not to try entry or re-entry into the labor force?

I don't know the answer to that.  But focusing only on the supply side of labor is probably insufficient.  The demand side matters, too, and women and men are still largely working in different types of jobs and industries.

 




Email ThisBlogThis!Share to XShare to FacebookShare to Pinterest
Posted in | No comments
Newer Post Older Post Home

0 comments:

Post a Comment

Subscribe to: Post Comments (Atom)

Popular Posts

  • Yellen vs. Summers As A Metaphor
    Atrios posted on the nomination of the next chief of Federal Reserve.  The forerunners have been defined as Lawrence Summers and Janet Yelle...
  • The New Pope
    Is Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the former archbishop of Buenos Aires, who takes the name Pope Francis.  He is the first non-European Pop...
  • Speed Blogging, Mon 9/16/2013: On Women
    Note:  Not all these are from the last few days. First , the Taliban in Afghanistan is waging a physical war against women in the public sec...
  • Those Discouraged Young Men Who Live in Their Parents' Basement
    Something interesting from Pew Research on the possibility that young men are now so discouraged and effeminate because of feminism that the...
  • Do Not Be Afraid Of Life. Echidne's Poetry Hour.
    A musical adaptation of Kaarlo Sarkia 's poem: A rough translation of the lyrics (by me and without the rhyme): Do not be afraid of lif...
  • Polling Conspiracies
    I once wrote a bad poem about Conspiracy Theories.  It began like this: There are five fat men in a secret  cave somewhere. They are naked. ...
  • Never Thin Enough? Thoughts About What We Can Sell in the Labor Market.
    Content Warning:  Body Images and Anorexia Joan Smith in the UK Independent reviews The Vogue Factor , a book about the eating requirements...
  • More Bad News From India
    Content note:  Sexual violence The victim of the Delhi gang rape is extremely ill at a Singapore hospital where she was airlifted a few day...
  • While You Wait For The Results
    In the US federal elections,  you can watch this slide show of  American women voting in earlier elections (via Hecate ).    I assume that...
  • If I Close The Tap Will Water Stop Running? The Texas Birth Control Experiment.
    A peculiar thing happened in Texas!  Its lawmakers decided to do away with funding Planned Parenthood for political forced-birth reasons, ev...

Blog Archive

  • ▼  2013 (365)
    • ►  September (20)
    • ▼  August (34)
      • How Older Parents Are Wrecking The World
      • On Whether the US Should Intervene in Syria
      • On Depression And Gender
      • A Breastfeeding Joke And Slightly Related Comments
      • Blog Spam
      • On The Concept of Privilege As A Tool in Social Ju...
      • What Some Treatments of Chelsea Manning Teach Us ...
      • Speed Blogging, Monday 8/26/2013. On Anniversarie...
      • Random Writing Post. Can Be Ignored.
      • The Bunny Rabbit Theory of Male Advantage And Othe...
      • Speed Blogging Thursday, August 22 20013. On Hero...
      • Speed Blogging 8/21/2013. Or How We Work: The De...
      • Oh Boy! This Is Fun. The Catch-22 Of Being Janet...
      • What To Read Today
      • What Did You Read On The Beach?
      • Crushed By the Costs of Daycare. And Who Is To Pa...
      • Lettuce Prey
      • A Different Angle to the Role of Newspaper Comment...
      • On What Internet Comments Might Achieve in Science...
      • From The Duh Files: Women who use ‘pull out’ birt...
      • Today's Weird Dream
      • Speed Blogging August 13, 2013. From Moscow Olymp...
      • Speed Blogging, Monday August 12, 20013: On Media...
      • Speed Blogging August 9, 2013. On Acid Attacks, C...
      • Fox and Friends on Feminism As Unnecessary
      • More Media Quicksand: The "Opt-Out Revolution" Ca...
      • Today's Great Joke: People Are Taking Satoshi Kan...
      • Media Quicksand. Fox News
      • Katha Pollitt on Abortion in Europe
      • Fewer and Fewer Women Are Entering the Labor Force?
      • I Lack Gravitas. So Does Janet Yellen.
      • A Trivial Feminist Post
      • The Whip, Not The Carrot. The American Conservati...
      • Vacation Post !!: Back From Vacation
    • ►  July (35)
    • ►  June (44)
    • ►  May (69)
    • ►  April (39)
    • ►  March (39)
    • ►  February (41)
    • ►  January (44)
  • ►  2012 (135)
    • ►  December (41)
    • ►  November (37)
    • ►  October (54)
    • ►  September (3)
Powered by Blogger.

About Me

Unknown
View my complete profile